WEBVTT 00:00:01.183 --> 00:00:09.047 Mom: It took us a long time. She was nine before she was diagnosed, so I think as early as three is when I was sort of like, “Oh, you’ve 00:00:09.047 --> 00:00:15.731 got some stuff that sort of makes me think you’re sitting somewhere on the spectrum.” But for Evelyn, it came out a lot like anxiety, 00:00:15.731 --> 00:00:23.552 so she was certainly having, like, some emotional regulation challenges—more so than most three- and four-year-old peers. Umm but . . . but it 00:00:23.552 --> 00:00:28.377 really was looking like anxiety. She was rigid. She had challenges when we would umm— 00:00:28.377 --> 00:00:29.750 Evelyn: I was a dry noodle. 00:00:29.750 --> 00:00:35.907 Mom: Yeah, that’s the analogy that we use: That like the . . . a noodle that is, like, too rigid because it’s not cooked— 00:00:35.907 --> 00:00:37.123 Evelyn: Or a soggy noodle. 00:00:37.123 --> 00:00:43.862 Mom: So you have to be flexible sometimes. But you had trouble with that, even from little ages. But I . . . I really was like, 00:00:43.862 --> 00:00:51.843 “Oh, it’s the anxiety stuff that seems bigger to me. It’s, like, the more forward part of all of this.” So we pursued things to try 00:00:51.843 --> 00:00:59.202 to see if we could help her develop some coping skills around that. Umm, different types of, like, play-based and then later on talk 00:00:59.202 --> 00:01:06.004 therapy and counseling and just trying to help see. Umm, you also have to think about the timing of all this. She was five when the 00:01:06.004 --> 00:01:14.285 pandemic happened, so then I was like, “Well, every kid is dealing with anxiety. We’re all dealing with anxiety.” So we really struggled 00:01:14.285 --> 00:01:21.472 through the pandemic. All of our routines were gone. But I sort of thought to myself, like, “I can’t see what’s happening in the 00:01:21.472 --> 00:01:29.659 midst of this really weird circumstance.” Following that, Evelyn had a brain injury, umm, from slipping and falling and hitting her 00:01:29.659 --> 00:01:30.699 head— 00:01:30.699 --> 00:01:32.258 Evelyn: Out of the bathtub. 00:01:32.258 --> 00:01:37.333 Mom: Then we were sort of like, “Well, okay. We still think this is in the background, but, like, these other things are a lot more 00:01:37.333 --> 00:01:47.090 pressing.” So it . . . it wasn’t until she was nine that we really actively started pursuing, umm, an autism evaluation. And then the 00:01:47.090 --> 00:01:56.569 challenge in my mind was I was like, “How do I find a community provider who understands autism in girls—especially girls—umm, who 00:01:56.569 --> 00:02:03.028 have, you know, like an average or higher intelligence?” Like, not everybody is equipped for that type of diagnosis. And especially 00:02:03.028 --> 00:02:10.235 when we knew at that time also, we suspected ADHD and anxiety were in the equation. And so it’s like, “Well, who . . . who can really, 00:02:10.235 --> 00:02:15.624 like, actually kind of help us parse this out and understand all of this? So— 00:02:15.624 --> 00:02:17.303 Evelyn: I liked the person who did it. 00:02:17.303 --> 00:02:27.614 Mom: We found the best person. It ended up being wonderful. Umm, but it was . . . it was challenging and it was frustrating. And, 00:02:27.614 --> 00:02:34.412 you know, dealing with insurance who didn’t end up paying for the evaluation at all and all of those sorts of things were just really 00:02:34.412 --> 00:02:41.480 a complicated part. What’s cool about that process I think, though, was we got to talk about autism and neurodiversity for years— 00:02:41.480 --> 00:02:42.734 Evelyn: Yeah. 00:02:42.734 --> 00:02:44.073 Mom: Before you had a diagnosis.